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Lamington Old Graded Track System

PostPosted: Tue 30 Mar, 2021 12:07 am
by dtbaker
Are there any sketch maps showing the old graded pathways around lamington? I'm just curious about how extensive it was in the past.

Not looking for anything accurate, just rough stuff or which tracks may have been connected long ago.

I have the attacked sketch but it's a little difficult to tell the difference between the type of dots on the map to know what was officially graded or not.

Thanks

Re: Lamington Old Graded Track System

PostPosted: Tue 30 Mar, 2021 10:02 am
by ofuros
You already have the sketch map...There's also a old O'Reilly's Tourist track map covering only the Greens Mts side of Lamington.
There is a overall wider view 1947 Lamington map which doesn't have a lot of detailed info.

I think that's as good as it got 70 odd years ago. Others on the forum may prove me wrong though. :wink:

Re: Lamington Old Graded Track System

PostPosted: Tue 30 Mar, 2021 1:10 pm
by dalehikes
There were many maps produced up to the 70's that detailed the abandoned system in one way or another.

1940, 47, 50, 55, 60, 62, 65, 69, 70, 75, 76. These are all individual and do not include revisions.

I have compared all of them to create a complete picture of what once existed.
After measuring them all I calculate that there is around 40km of abandoned track!

I was in an area with apparent abandoned track on Sunday, however there were no traces in sight, which leads me to believe it was blazed rather than graded.

Re: Lamington Old Graded Track System

PostPosted: Tue 30 Mar, 2021 2:27 pm
by Lyrebird
I was in an area with apparent abandoned track on Sunday,

There are several on the Darlington Range side of the Coomera River complete with stone edges (is that was traces are?). I've tried following a few of them over the years but they all ended at old landslides or impenetrable scunge and lawyer vine. Fun times, but not a day for wearing fancy new hiking clothes; on each occasion I emerged looking like the Creature From the Black Lagoon :lol:.
I have compared all of them to create a complete picture of what once existed.

Would you be willing to share, or provide some source details if they're publicly available? I'm also interested in what was once there and what remains to be seen. Up to you of course, since you did all the hard work :)

Re: Lamington Old Graded Track System

PostPosted: Tue 30 Mar, 2021 9:35 pm
by dalehikes
Lyrebird wrote:
I was in an area with apparent abandoned track on Sunday,

There are several on the Darlington Range side of the Coomera River complete with stone edges (is that was traces are?).
I have compared all of them to create a complete picture of what once existed.

Would you be willing to share, or provide some source details if they're publicly available? I'm also interested in what was once there and what remains to be seen. Up to you of course, since you did all the hard work :)


By traces I just mean any evidence at all that there were tracks, IE rocks, cut out earth, signposts...

I'll try out together something when I've got time at home. Some maps make it look like a mess of tracks and it's hard to know which ones were real and which ones were drawn on accidentally.

Re: Lamington Old Graded Track System

PostPosted: Tue 30 Mar, 2021 9:56 pm
by Lyrebird
Gotcha, I thought I might have missed a technical term. Always happy to learn :mrgreen:
Many thanks in advance for any info you've got. I think the tracks themselves may have been a bit of a spaghetti, as witnessed in the area around Orchid Bower and Lyrebird Lookout where there are numerous footpads pointing in the same general direction. There are at least two sets of signposts through there from the thirties that I'm aware of, and possibly there are more. Likewise downstream of Yerralahla/Blue Pool, where there are some remnants of a track system and a lot of subsidiary bypasses. I'm not sure how formal the lesser trafficked parts of the track system actually was.

Re: Lamington Old Graded Track System

PostPosted: Wed 31 Mar, 2021 8:35 pm
by coimon
dalehikes wrote:1940, 47, 50, 55, 60, 62, 65, 69, 70, 75, 76. These are all individual and do not include revisions.


I've seen a number of these, but not all. Am interested to hear where you sourced / got access to them - are they readily available in public records, for example? Cheers.

Re: Lamington Old Graded Track System

PostPosted: Thu 01 Apr, 2021 4:15 am
by ofuros
National Library of Australia, Gold Coast & the State Library @ Southbank seem to have a few in their collections...

Re: Lamington Old Graded Track System

PostPosted: Thu 01 Apr, 2021 8:59 am
by dalehikes
ofuros wrote:National Library of Australia, Gold Coast & the State Library @ Southbank seem to have a few in their collections...


The national and states libraries and archives are where they are scattered. As well as getting my hands on some genuine ones through auctions or antique book stores.
I've had all of them scanned in hi-res for my own records. It has definitely been a time consuming task!

Re: Lamington Old Graded Track System

PostPosted: Thu 01 Apr, 2021 7:03 pm
by Lyrebird
The national and states libraries and archives are where they are scattered.

Thanks for the tip, I'll have a look.