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Re: Falls Creek to Mt Hotham Alpine Crossing

Postby crockle » Sat 29 Oct, 2022 9:48 pm

Thanks for that CraigVIC - the conference is starting this coming Tuesday .
Reading the draft program, one is filled with an electric frisson of excitement about the universal precepts of corporate business models being applied to public outdoor places.

Monetise. 'Add value'. Target the market segment.
Use an imported nomenclature that has no history of use in this country.

Time to pipe down, put up, and pay my priority-experience premium hiking fee.
So y'all - let's go trailwalking !
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Re: Falls Creek to Mt Hotham Alpine Crossing

Postby paidal_chalne_vala » Sun 30 Oct, 2022 8:22 am

If this FHAC development all happens and the project goes ahead then I fail to see how " they " can charge us Back country XC Skiers to use the Bogong High Plains in July , August and September when we seldom use any set routes that follow any pole lines!.
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Re: Falls Creek to Mt Hotham Alpine Crossing

Postby Lophophaps » Mon 31 Oct, 2022 5:58 am

A parks pass would be easy to introduce.
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Re: Falls Creek to Mt Hotham Alpine Crossing

Postby Xplora » Mon 31 Oct, 2022 6:42 am

paidal_chalne_vala wrote:If this FHAC development all happens and the project goes ahead then I fail to see how " they " can charge us Back country XC Skiers to use the Bogong High Plains in July , August and September when we seldom use any set routes that follow any pole lines!.

I don't recall reading anything about people having to pay such as you suggest.
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Re: Falls Creek to Mt Hotham Alpine Crossing

Postby paidal_chalne_vala » Mon 31 Oct, 2022 7:36 am

It all smells like privatization of our national Parks and private development by incremental steps to me.
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Re: Falls Creek to Mt Hotham Alpine Crossing

Postby Xplora » Mon 31 Oct, 2022 5:58 pm

paidal_chalne_vala wrote:It all smells like privatization of our national Parks and private development by incremental steps to me.

I understand how you feel but I don't think scaremongering without facts or a basis for these claims is helpful. This is not Fakebook.
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Re: Falls Creek to Mt Hotham Alpine Crossing

Postby crockle » Thu 03 Nov, 2022 11:37 am

CraigVIC wrote: the TRC conference. Amongst friends, it will probably offer some insight..
https://trctourism.wpenginepowered.com/ ... 092022.pdf

I note in passing, that presenting at the conference is Matt Harrington of Yarra Ranges Council, speaking on "Navigating the legal environment for trail construction"
Could be a touch embarrassing, I don't know... : - https://vnpa.org.au/yarra-ranges-nation ... b6de86130d
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Re: Falls Creek to Mt Hotham Alpine Crossing

Postby paidal_chalne_vala » Thu 03 Nov, 2022 6:01 pm

Xplora wrote:
paidal_chalne_vala wrote:It all smells like privatization of our national Parks and private development by incremental steps to me.

I understand how you feel but I don't think scaremongering without facts or a basis for these claims is helpful. This is not Fakebook.


The FakeBook is a jazz song book used by us musicians as a quick way to bluff our way through innunerable Jazz tunes from the Golden era of jazz i.e before Rock music took over.
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Re: Falls Creek to Mt Hotham Alpine Crossing

Postby Xplora » Fri 04 Nov, 2022 6:12 am

paidal_chalne_vala wrote:
Xplora wrote:
paidal_chalne_vala wrote:It all smells like privatization of our national Parks and private development by incremental steps to me.

I understand how you feel but I don't think scaremongering without facts or a basis for these claims is helpful. This is not Fakebook.


The FakeBook is a jazz song book used by us musicians as a quick way to bluff our way through innunerable Jazz tunes from the Golden era of jazz i.e before Rock music took over.


Would Farcebook be more appropriate "Farce is a comedy that seeks to entertain an audience through situations that are highly exaggerated, extravagant, ridiculous, absurd, and improbable." - Wikipedia
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Re: Falls Creek to Mt Hotham Alpine Crossing

Postby Lophophaps » Sat 26 Nov, 2022 11:06 am

Some time ago, Parks Victoria advised that FHAC had strong support. My vague recollection is that this was qualified by saying that business interests or similar strongly supported FHAC. Can someone please direct me to where PV gave this misleading information?

There were 196 public submissions. These had
90 per cent against
5 per cent for
4 per cent neutral.
Numbers have been rounded. There were around 30 submissions not available for public viewing, probably from resorts and commercial interests. With 30 such submissions all for FHAC the figures are now 78, 18 and 4 per cent. That is, there are 4.3 times for as against, at most.
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