Joynz wrote:I’m comparing two Macpac light down jackets. Is there a way to work out how much warmer one jacket is compared to another based on the down fill power and weight of down? These are the two I’m comparing:
1. Mercury: 650 fill power duck down. 154g of down in the jacket.
2. Icefall: 800 fill power goose down. 96g of down in the jacket. There is actually 88g of down plus prima loft synthetic in the shoulders, cuffs and chin - but since the previous model of this jacket without the primaloft has 96g of down, I'm guessing the down/prima loft combo in this jacket possibly equates to 96g of overall).
Moondog55 wrote:There was an article over at BPL by Richard Nisley
650FP down is rated 1 and 800FP down is rated 1.68 in terms of warmth per weight
At a quick glance they appear to be functional equivalents, one being lighter than the other. The other thing to consider is how much of your body gets covered, it one has a hood and comes down lower on the body it will be warmer
Moondog55 wrote:There was an article over at BPL by Richard Nisley
650FP down is rated 1 and 800FP down is rated 1.68 in terms of warmth per weight
At a quick glance they appear to be functional equivalents, one being lighter than the other. The other thing to consider is how much of your body gets covered, it one has a hood and comes down lower on the body it will be warmer
wildwanderer wrote:What will you be using the jacket for? and in what enviroment / temps?
There is probably not that much difference between the two macpac jackets. Best to try on in the store. Which one puffs up the most and the most consistantly across the entire jacket will likey be the one that insulates the best.
Icefall seems quite specialised, quite $$ and I dont really see the point of mixing down and synthetic insulation in a non snow enviroment. If its raining or even in drizzle you dont want to be in a down jacket period. Outside of very cold/very dry enviroments (eg high alpine) down is not active wear. Its for around camp/town/slow walking etc eg where you not sweating. For active wear use fleece.
Joynz wrote:wildwanderer wrote:
Icefall is currently on sale at my local DFO outlet for around $200 (RRP $500!).
After decades of thriftiness, I was thinking it might be time improve on the old down puffy I picked up 20 years ago for $15!
Joynz wrote:Fair enough. But the price seems good - even compared to similar jackets from other brands.
I just need to work out which is warmer.
Moondog55 wrote:I did research the Macpac down garments for the GD and all things considered I decided that the Arrowsmith gave the best warmth to weight ratio
There are still womens sizes available at around the same price point.
It is however a pullover which isn't fashionable but is lighter
https://www.macpac.com.au/clearance/wom ... 2&start=33
They run small so I would say that you need to buy a size larger
I did have one for sale but Mrs Mudd has put a deposit on it
Moondog55 wrote:It is however a pullover which isn't fashionable but is lighter
https://www.macpac.com.au/clearance/wom ... 2&start=33
Moondog55 wrote:It is a camp wear/static use fabric.
I thought it was 20D but I can't see anything to tell me that now
EDIT
12dx40d fabric according to the details section
Not really abrasion resistant but for normal wear Pertex Quantum is quite strong enough
Moondog55 wrote:I did research the Macpac down garments for the GD and all things considered I decided that the Arrowsmith gave the best warmth to weight ratio
There are still womens sizes available at around the same price point.
It is however a pullover which isn't fashionable but is lighter
https://www.macpac.com.au/clearance/wom ... 2&start=33
north-north-west wrote:Moondog55 wrote:I did research the Macpac down garments for the GD and all things considered I decided that the Arrowsmith gave the best warmth to weight ratio
There are still womens sizes available at around the same price point.
It is however a pullover which isn't fashionable but is lighter
https://www.macpac.com.au/clearance/wom ... 2&start=33
I wish you hadn't posted that. They even have my size in red.
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Moondog55 wrote:Red ones are warmer naturally.
north-north-west wrote:Saved by the Macpac website. Logged in, bagged it, tried to checkout and it insists it can be neither delivered nor picked up in store. Good, because I really don't need it and I really can't afford it.
What I did find fascinating is that the women's was actually $10 less than the men 's. Has this ever happened previously in the entire history of retail clothing?
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